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February 02, 2006

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Rosco

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Yitzchak Goodman

Afterall, no European newspaper is about to print a caricature of Jewish figure of importance and then defend it on the grounds of "freedom of expression" are they

Almost everything I have read by Muslims about the cartoons contains a statement that the Jews are somehow immune from having their religion ridiculed. Did you ever hear of the movie "Life of Brian"? It makes fun of the Jewish prohibition of saying G-d's name and it also contains things that offended Christians. Nobody who was offended did anything else besides say "I'm offened." There some orderly protests, I think. Nobody assumed the British government had to take action or was responsible (it was a British film). Nobody boycotted any British companies. Nobody was beaten up.

Yitzchak Goodman

Those cartoons are deeply offensive and are no better than if the WaPo or Boston Globe had a cartoon of Al Sharpton being lynched.

Not a good comparison. They would not have a cartoon of a Muslim being lynched either. It would be considered an outrage.

thabet

"Almost everything I have read by Muslims about the cartoons contains a statement that the Jews are somehow immune from having their religion ridiculed."

False assertion. Judaism is not "immune from ridicule". I never said that. But no Euroepan newspaper is going to print cartoons of, say, Moses (who is also a Prophet of God to Muslims) as a deroagatory caricature (which, much to their shame, many Arab newspapers revel in doing so) in the same way these cartoons were depicting Muhammad as a "terrorist" and "blood thirsty". Or are they?

Yitzchak Goodman

But no Euroepan newspaper is going to print cartoons of, say, Moses (who is also a Prophet of God to Muslims) as a deroagatory caricature (which, much to their shame, many Arab newspapers revel in doing so) in the same way these cartoons were depicting Muhammad as a "terrorist" and "blood thirsty". Or are they?

You have to come up with an example that would occur to someone. There is a lot of rhetoric out there from the Left calling Israel the "real terrorists," much as Cindy Sheehan refers to President Bush. Moses does appear in cartoons sometimes, but usually because the cartoonist thought of some funny twist of Moses coming down the mountain with the tablets. The Western mind does not associate him with the Jewish people collectively so much. But in terms of just ridiculing religion, I don't think anything is off-limits. In Life of Brian, the hero, who is supposed to resemble Jesus, is mixed up with a terrorist group called the "People's Front of Judea"--Jews fighting the Romans. Perhaps that is analogous.

Charles N. Steele

There's a good deal of irony in all this. Only two of the Danish cartoons are, strictly speaking, critical of Mohammed -- the infamous "turban bomb" and "eyes covered." Two of them appear to poke fun at the cartoonists themslves. But at least three mock the tendency of Muslims to react with hysteria and violence at any supposed "prvocation." The "Relax folks, it's just a sketch by a Dane..." cartoon is all-too-accurate.


Instead of having fits about some cartoons, why aren't more Muslims upset about schoolteachers being kidnapped, cultural centers raided by masked gunmen, and death threats made against newspaper editors and European citizens in general, all in the name of Islam? The lack of Muslim outrage in these matters is making it difficult for us non-Muslims who have been trying to make the case that Islam isn't inherently totalitarian.

The time to speak out for freedom of expression, including expression of that which you dislike, is now.

Svend

Thanks for the link Thabet. Actually, I agree that the demand for censorship is problematic. In any other situation, I'd be all over Muslims for this, but JP (and those defending it) are pretty much declaring war on Muslims, so there are bigger fish to fry IMHO.

With all due respect, Yitzchak, your analogy with "The Life of Brian"--which is being trotted out a lot at the moment--is faulty. There's little if nothing even remotely offensive about that film and what little might be was certainly not done intentionally. It's a friendly parody not a critique.

Svend

One more thing: Yitzchak, the reason that so many Muslims mention how Jews are treated differently in these situations in Europe today is not anti-Semitic paranoia, but rather the simple fact that Muslims *are* being treated by a different standard than that of Jews (who are the most visible *other* non-Christian minority). European leaders understand that prejudice against Jews is unacceptable and are by and large vigilant in against its presence in the public square. The same can't be said in the case of Muslims.

caliph speaks

Europeans Respect Gay Penguins More than Prophet Muhammad - http://www.islamic-world.net/caliph.php?ArtID=309

shuhu

Hi, to everyone
First of all I'm a muslim girl & studying english literature. I want to say that ISLAM means peace and never has meant terrorism
the first word in islam is READ and not EXPLODE
islam is represented by prophet MUHAMMAD(peace be up on him), and not by Osama Binladen
finally I' m sure that everyone reads the biography of that great man will know what effect he left in our lives since 1427 years till now also will understand why we started the boycott & why we will never stop this revolution
Thanks

phil ochs

In light of the substantial support from many Muslim holy men through out the world that look to the Koran to support violence in every conflict with non Muslims lampooning the prophet in a cartoon is fair and legitimate criticism. As a Jew we get lampooned all the time in Muslim papers and media. Thats just the way it is. We all need to be a bit thick skinned to avoid endless religiuos war. PERIOD.

Paramendra Bhagat

Hate Speech, Free Speech: Europe Needs To Learn The Difference

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