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January 13, 2005

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sepoy

North Sea! I demand a picaresque post soon. Bon Voyage.

Eteraz

Haroon had an article on his website written by Tim Robins(?) from the New Statesmen. There is a case mentioned in there towards the end. From the 1770's. About corporate liability. It's an English case. Do you think you can get a hold of that opinion for me? My american westlaw won't give me access to British materials. Here is the relevant information:

Yet there is one instance where the company's impunity was broken. In
1774, a group of Armenian merchants launched a civil case for damages
against Hastings's predecessor, Harry Verelst. Led by Gregore Cojamaul
and Johannes Padre Rafael, the merchants alleged that Verelst had
arbitrarily locked them up in Bengal six years earlier, confiscating
their property and removing their freedom to trade. It is a testimony
to the British legal system that in December 1774, the Lord Chief
Justice decided in favour of the Armenians, judging that Verelst had
been guilty of "oppression, false imprisonment and singular
depredations". Verelst had to pay £9,000 in damages, as well as full
costs.

Eteraz

BTW: what is a 'thabet' -- urdu for proof?

ghostdog

I too am feel deeply uncomfortable with the detention of these men at Gitmo. Not because I feel that these guys are angels; they made their way to Afghanistan to fight, kill, and be killed. I have no compassion for them. They should have stayed in the UK instead of searching for their jihad. I am deeply disturbed however that the Bill of Rights, Constitution, and Geneva Conventions have been systematically and purposefully undermined. This is the real trajedy.

Yusuf Smith

I too am feel deeply uncomfortable with the detention of these men at Gitmo. Not because I feel that these guys are angels; they made their way to Afghanistan to fight, kill, and be killed. I have no compassion for them. They should have stayed in the UK instead of searching for their jihad.

In fact, not all of them went to Afghanistan to "fight, kill and be killed" at all - none of these accusations have ever been proven. In fact, Moazzam Begg was kidnapped in Pakistan and one of the boys who was released last year had been imprisoned by the Taliban. Even if they had, they no doubt went to fight the "Northern Alliance" many of whom were known for their brutality.

thabet

Sepoy: Sadly, I didn't bring my brand new flashy Sony digital camera with me. I think the medic has one; I'll see if she will lend it to me.

Eteraz: Will need to check out some libraries when I get back onshore, which is, errr...

With 'thabet' I was thinking more of the term in classical Arabic philosophy. Namely, 'that which is established'.

Ghostdog: Yusuf beat me to it, but I'll say it anyway. We simply do not know how and when these men were detained. This is the whole problem. As Yusuf pointed out, Moazzam Begg was taken from Pakistan.

salaam

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